Gardena Lithium Battery

County Battery Services   have started to rebuild the Gardena Lithium Battery as you are probably aware lithium rebuilding can cause some difficulties however as you can see in the picture Stuart at our Nuthall Depot is an expert. If you need help with one of these or any other lithium battery pack please let me know. I can be contacted at County Battery Services

County Battery Services   use Panasonic cells for their power tool rebuilds the quality is second to none!


BMW Li-ion Battery

BMW Lithium Battery

BMW are now fitting Li-ion starter batteries in the place of AGM on some of their more prestigious marks. Li-ion is probably half the weight of the AGM and I would expect it to outlast the AGM. We at County Battery Services supply Lithium Battery for motorcycle starting which is useful for racing bikes weight, but I see no real advantage for the car battery especially  as the majority will be supplied for road use. BMW are saying that the product will enable better starting in cold weather I don’t know what the price is I guess it will be £1000 or more to replace.

Another issue is the charging if you get a car with one of these batteries please make sure you have the correct charger it will kill the battery if you do not and could quite easily explode!

Burglar Alarm Batteries is your home in danger?

Have you ever noticed when there is a power cut numerous burglar alarms start sounding? When the power goes out the battery cuts in just in case someone  has cut the power to the premises to disable the alarm. As soon as the power is restored the alarm resets and no problem

The reason that alarms ring when there has been a power outage is normally because the battery is no longer working. The design life on these batteries is 5 years County Battery Services Ltd recommend they are replaced every 3 years although offer full testing services in any of their stores in Kirkby in Ashfield, Nuthall, or Ilkeston.

How fast do lead acid batteries charge?

Firstly we need to categorise into different products;

  1. SLI (Starter lighting and ignition) Flooded Traction Semi traction, and leisure
  2. VRLA (Valve regulated lead acid) Which comprises of AGM (absorbed glass mat) and Gel (electrolyte held in a thixotropic gel)
  3. Pure Lead (Odyssey)

SLI Flooded Traction and leisure

Recommended charging at 10% of the Ampere hour rate e.g. 100 Ampere Hour battery would require 10 amps. If one assumes the battery was 80% discharged it would need 80 amps plus possibly (depends on the battery) another 10% for inefficiency to regain full charge. It makes sense to assume that 10 amps for 8.8 hours would be sufficient for a full charge. This is not the case as the voltage of the battery increases so the amperage will fall (Ohms Law) The normal “rule of thumb” that is applied in this case is 8(amps) x 10 (hours) gives 80% charge and the amount of time take to get to 80% should be added on (in this case a further 10 hours) for battery to regain a full state of charge.

VRLA batteries require a minimum of 10% and a maximum of 25% charge obviously charge quicker and tend to be more efficient so 100 Ah battery 25 amp charge rate will charge for 4 hours to 80% + 4 hours.

Pure Lead even better requiring 40% at minimum and theoretically almost no upper limit so 100 Ah battery charged at 40 amps will be at 80% in two and a half hours and fully charged in five hours. It is possible with Odyssey to take a 100ah battery charge it at 200amps and have the battery back in service in 1 hour!

It may be useful to point out that the batteries listed do tend to have different charging algorithms and advice should always be taken on the correct battery charger contact us at

100 Amp Fuller Leisure Battery

Taking old electric vehicle batteries and using them to store solar energy

Here is an interesting way to use a product that is no longer of serviceable use in the product that it was designed for then recycled to do another job The question is will it work?

Part of my work at County Battery Services Ltd is to look at new and innovative products that the Company can bring to Market some time ago we launched the Powerbank a device that captures the solar energy from photovoltaic cells and stores it to be used when the sun goes down.

Old batteries and solar I think this all sound a great idea, but in reality is it feasible? If the battery has come from a crashed damaged car that is an insurance total loss then I could see it working, but the suggestion is that you take a battery that is no longer of use in a car and expect it to perform in a solar application.

I am aware that studies are being carried out no one talks about the battery life after is has left the car, It would need to be reconditioned in some way or the correct voltage could not be maintained. When ever we have swapped cells in fork truck batteries the others soon start to fail not long after and they are of low voltage with typically no more than 24 cells

The battery could be dismantled and any faulty cells could be replaced but that is a time consuming and dangerous job (400V DC). As there are lots of cells in one of these packs It would be easy to miss some, or have others fail within days of the others being replaced. It is possibly cheaper to buy a new battery and definitely more reliable.

The quest to find a cheap way to store energy I think must carry on maybe a water tower and an Archimedes Screw would be better?

How a Lead Acid Battery Works

An electrical battery is a combination of two or more cells used to convert chemical energy into electrical energy

A battery stores electricity. It develops voltage from the chemical reaction produced went two different metals are immersed in an electrolyte solution

In a battery, when a chemical reaction occurs electrons move from one pole to the other. The different metals and electrolytes used give the battery different characteristics the most significant of these is the varying voltage of the battery

A battery is made up of cells in lead acid batteries they contain lead grids onto which are pasted lead and another plate made of lead dioxide, with a sulphuric acid electrolyte into which the plates are immersed.

Lead combines with SO4 (sulphate) to create PbSO4 (lead sulphate), plus one electron.

Lead dioxide, hydrogen ions and SO4 ions, plus electrons from the lead plate, create PbSO4 and water on the lead dioxide plate.

As the battery discharges, both plates build up PbSO4 and water builds up in the acid. The voltage is about 2.2 volts per cell, for vehicle starting normally six cells are connected to produce a 12 Volt battery.

This reaction is reversible. If you apply current to the battery at the right voltage, lead and lead dioxide form again on the plates so you can reuse the battery until the active material has been depleted to render the battery unserviceable

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Diagram of lead-acid cell. Lead and lead oxide plates in sulphuric acid to produce about 2.2 Volts

Diagram of lead-acid cell. Lead and lead oxide plates in sulphuric acid to produce about 2.2 Volts

Lithium is it the answer?

There is a huge surge towards the use of lithium in batteries. The question is when the battery is finished what to do with it? At County Battery Services we sell Lithium batteries of all types and of course have the facilities to collect the old battery products and send them to the recyclers

Lithium is a very volatile metal do you remember the teacher at school demonstrating Lithium? Our teacher got a pair of tongues and pulled out a piece out of  lithium oil  dropped it into some water it reacted with the water then caught fire. Noxious substances were produced when adding it to water.It burns at up to 700 degrees C.

So bearing in mind how volatile this element is there are quite significant issues in the storage and transportation of lithium batteries both new and used. The British Post Office will not knowingly carry even a small lithium button cell. Another issue to bear in mind there are probably 50 different types of lithium based battery a lot of these with different routes to recycling and as most of the recycling is carried our abroad and more and more shipping lines are refusing to carry these products. The disposal of waste is becoming a greater and more expensive issue.

Now most people nowadays own a mobile phone normally powered by a lithium battery, is that a bomb in your pocket? Supermarkets have boxes in their windows to collect waste batteries I wonder how long it might be before one of them goes up in flames?

Is lithium the answer I am sure it probably is but we need to go through lots of learning before I will be sure!

5 x 3.6v 8500mah Lithium Thionyl Chloride ER26500 C cell batteryLithium-Thionyl Chloride